Tuesday, March 11, 2008

The BAT asking for more money, and doing it by taxes was inevitable from the day they began.

And an ignominious defeat is almost certain. Any measure from the city right now is going to face scrutiny after the the horrible mishandling of....well, just about everything. And that was when (because?) times were good. A tax measure right now doesn't have a chance in hell.

When the tax payers have a choice of paying police and firemen or rewarding more money to a manifestly mismanaged boondoogle, there ain't much doubt which way they'll go. Driving to work over mangled roadways, to pay higher prices for groceries and gas, and then looking at mostly empty buses waiting for the occasional waif to wander by?

Anyway, that's my impression.

Before I weigh in on whether I'm personally for or against such a measure, I'd like to see an independent analysis of the ridership and cost per passenger. The last time I crunched the numbers, I concluded they'd be better off hiring taxi's for each rider, and dropping the huge infrastructure.

I just have my doubts Bend will ever support a true BAT.

And no, this isn't a suggestion that they hire yet another consultant. It shouldn't be too hard to find someone who can look over the balance sheets.

I'd especially like to know how our ridership per capita compares to other towns, and the how the cost per rider mile compares.

Hey, Bulletin or Source or Bend Living. Think you can do that?

7 comments:

News Junkie said...

"an extra 33 cents to 39 cents per $1,000 of assessed value." They've got to be kidding!
At a buck a ride, they would have to offer the average homeowner about 150 free rides a year for the taxpayer to break even on that deal.

BAT TAX DOA

Duncan McGeary said...

And they could pay for 15 10.00 taxi rides and infuse some money in the local private economy.

Are there any places in the country that contract this sort of thing out to private entities? Because, they'd almost have to be more efficient.

Some system of vouchers? Income based rides?

Duncan McGeary said...

It also shows how incredibly out of touch the city council is with what's going on...or, if the measure passes, how out of touch I am.

They need to get say, a bunch of former mayors, say 10 of them, to give them some lessons and Bend history and perspective.

Oh, wait....the former mayors already volunteered that information.

The city council decided they needed more public relations spending.....

Anonymous said...

I tried to post the following over at the Source, but they have me blocked from posting, just like the BULL, and BENDBB.

Could someone post the following or equivalent at the SORE-EYE story?? The issue is that HBM himself, nobody is stopping him from publishing the Fisher story about over-valuation. ... The SORE ( HBM ) is simply calling the BULL pot kettle black, but we all know that the SORE&BULL are conjoined Siamese twins that share a common asshole.

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Or better yet let the Source run the original Fisher article.

Rather than poking fun at the loss of jobs, I think HBM should spend some time himself promoting the truth in Bend, Oregon.

News Junkie said...

"Are there any places in the country that contract this sort of thing out to private entities? Because, they'd almost have to be more efficient."


Federal mass transit subsidies encourage this wastefulness. The city is merely looking for more free money from the big boys in Congress.

RDC said...

I think they have delusions of being Park City (I think that was one of the cities they studied). Park City has a very successful bus system. But, it needs to have one because a lot of visitors don't bother with rental cars, they shuttle from the airport to one of the resorts they are staying at and then depend upon the bus system to do what limited getting around they need. They also invested in the bus system as an alternative to the parking issues downtown. (Doesn't hurt that a significant portion of the bus infrastructure there was put in during the winter olympics).
Bend is considerably different in how the town is structured and the nature of the visitor. Even with what is envisioned for Bends bus system, one would still pretty much need a car when visiting.

Carl said...

I think everyone would be astounded at the cost per rider, if that comp ever get's done.

I have seen towns where the bus costs over $20 per rider and the rider never pays more than 10% of the true cost.

Your right, it would be cheaper to pay the rider to take a cab and the system would save money.

You can count 2 NO votes from this household.